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Storyline Discussion Thread
Hey, so how about those V-Crystals? What exactly is "cyber imaginary space", anyway? Why do VRs in the XBLA version of VOOT for Xbox 360 have a Dreamcast with GD-ROM on their back?
Discuss the VO series storyline here. Try to stick to the "official" storyline. "What if" scenarios and fan-fiction can go in Off Topic.
Discuss the VO series storyline here. Try to stick to the "official" storyline. "What if" scenarios and fan-fiction can go in Off Topic.
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Re: Storyline Discussion Thread
In VC 0086, the cyber-syndicate Dyna-Tech & Nova (more commonly known as the DN Corp.) went to the moon and discovered a mysterious ancient ruins, with equally mysterious crystals, and what appears to be the remains of a giant robot, which would later be known as the Bal-Bas-Bow Unit. DN kept their discovery a secret from the world, and they created a black box using the ruins' OverTechnology, which is the very first V-Converter. They tried to use it to activate and control the mysterious robot, but there were failed attempts. They then decided to create their own robots based on the OverTechnology. The results are the XMU-04-C Temjin, and the XMU-05-D Raiden, the very first VirtuaRoid prototypes. The final product Raiden was to be classified as a Support Attack VR, but due to its vast firepower, it was re-classified as a Heavy Battle VR. The Temjin, most particularly the XMU-04-C, used a railgun, but it proved too cumbersome, so they decided on the MultiPurpose Beam Launcher for the final product Temjin, which is both a beam sword and a beam rifle.
'nuff said.
EDIT: As it turned out, XMU stands for eXperimental Master Unit.
'nuff said.
EDIT: As it turned out, XMU stands for eXperimental Master Unit.
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Re: Storyline Discussion Thread
http://wiki.kurokoproject.com/doku.php?id=vo_story
This has some good info for the earlier bits of the series, bit not so much Force/MARZ. Still a good read.
Copypasta for those too lazy to click on the link. And in case the site fudges itself into oblivion in the future for whatever reason. Eh, whatever.
VO Story: The tl;dr version
1.
VO:C = Virtual On: Counterpoint 9A (drama CD)
2.
VOOM = Virtual On: Operation Moongate (aka the first CT: Virtual ON)
3.
OMR = One-Man Rescue (sidestory, in Hobby Japan
4.
FP = Fragmentary Passage (
5.
VOOT = Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram
6.
VOF = Virtual On: FORCE
7.
VOM = Virtual On: MARZ..ok, nobody gave a **** about Marz.
1.
Pre-VO:
1.
Earth is now controlled by megacorporations instead of nations or power blocs, and we are in the Virtual Century(aka Gundam: Hexidecimal Calendar)
2.
There's apparently a few space colonies(nobody cares about them except pre-VOOM) and some intrasystem travel, but no long-range star travel.
3.
No actual “war” is required anymore, since it's all done via banking/stock-market/Internet. Unknown if late 2008 was their opening salvo.
4.
However, actual humans don't really feel content without war or the normal trappings of survival, so companies now stage meaningless wars to keep the rabble distracted, and keep stocks high.
5.
The refereeing company is “International War Company”, and the battles are referred to as “Limited War”.
1.
Some speculation backed up by Virtual Century: soldiers are mercenaries, it's implied that while they're looked down on as hired dogs, being a veteran gets you access to higher benefits and a nice cash pension(possibly similarities to Grey: Digital Target with the “Citizen” battles)
6.
One day, ancient alien subterranean ruins are discovered on the Moon. Among the “Overtechnology”(yes, it's probably a Macross reference) discovered are two important items:
1.
The “V-Crystal”, a crystalline artifact that can “move” minds between the regular plane of existence, and another data-driven dimension termed “Cyber-Imaginary Space”, or “C.I.S.” for short. Plus, it is found to enable “Reverse-Convert”, a technique to materialize matter out of data patterns and energy(Doesn't say whether this breaks the law of energy-conversion or not).
2.
A giant humanoid robot, termed “Bal Bas Bow”. Yes, this is part of the original Bal from VOOM. However, the catch is that the head alone is the size of a VR, and this is what Bal's “float unit” actually is.
7.
The discovering corporations decide to create a consortium to better manage(i.e. profit) from this technology. The organization formed from them is termed “DN”, from the “Dyna-tech” and “Nova Group” corps. Their army is “DNA”. Har.
8.
Experiments to try to revive the original Bal unit fail spectacularly and it's decided to let it be. However, by examining its structure and the V-Crystal, DN creates miniaturized versions of the Bal power source(the “V. Converter”). They load them onto two experimental robots they had lying around(the Temjin and Raiden prototypes), and discover that these “Virtuaroids”(or VRs) become pretty neat additions to their usual Limited War escapades.
9.
What they carefully leave unspoken is that there are still lots of unknowns with the V.Converter and Crystal, plus an expanding missing-person count with the original VR and -Crystal development teams.
1.
This is where the 'Plant 0' legends come from. 'SHADOW' also comes into play here.
2.
The first Viper units are built, and one bursting into flames on a test-run is the inspiration for the “She's Lost Control” special attacks in all later Viper-based series.
3.
The original Fei-Yen is built around this time, ostensibly as a Reverse-Convert experimental unit(?). Runs off, unclear if it has artificial intelligence or can transmogrify into a young girl, or star in H-doujins. After this, DN builds mass-produced replicas that are toned down. No word on what kind of pilots they tend to get.
4.
The designer of Fei-Yen, Dr. Plajiner, also went missing.
5.
Other history around this time includes the drama CD “VO: Counterpoint 9A”, where the “Black Onyx” artificial human(the progenitor of Jagurandi) and Mimy Salpien of the SHBVD search for Fei-Yen. Dunno if it has anything more interesting than that.
10.
DN rapidly builds a bunch more VR models for testing, and starts experimenting with even bigger units(the better to play war-games with, my dear). That won't come back to bite us, no sir.
11.
Since it takes people with affinity for controlling VRs(termed VO-Positive or “VO+” in VOOM, and never referred to again after OMR), DN starts experimenting with VR remote-control units to identify potential pilots amongst the general population. They conveniently look like arcade units, which half-a-dozen other 'mech shows later copied the idea from.
2.
VOOM
1.
Oops, looks like some of the doo-dads DN was experimenting with have started running amuck. VRs operating with no pilots, the Ruin factories are rejecting all personnel, and this thing called a “Sun Cannon” appears to have been activated. Milton pleads innocent.
2.
DN's stock of trained pilots is relatively low(only unit that is mentioned is the Special Heavy-Battle-VR Division, a unit composed of Raiden pilots, that show up in a few more places). They decide to activate the remote-control capability built into the arcade units they have floating around.
3.
This is what the “This is not a simulator..” message means in VOOM, and the version number “3.33” refers to the remote control capability. “MSBS” is “Mind Shift Battle System”, etc.
4.
It's up to you to defeat the rogue units and save the earth..blah blah.
3.
VOOM aftermath
1.
Despite heavy losses on DNA's side, Z-Gradt and Sun Cannon taken out, party down, etc.
2.
Or is it? Turns out that the “Sun Cannon” never really posed any threat to Earth. Worse, it was just a feint by rival groups within DN to break away and form their own organization and army: RNA (aka the Scary Dogmatic (non)Aliens).
1.
This is all due to “Ember IV”, some rose-sniffing bishonen who loves being mysterious and acting superior. RNA apparently swears their loyalty to him rather than being mercenaries, but it's unclear what else they do besides eliminate DNA units. Ember shows up again in Marz.
3.
Double worse: the existence of VRs has been revealed to the world, and DN's monopoly on VR technology is broken up. RNA has their own way of producing V.Converters and VRs, and is even working on new and improved versions. Plus, they have a huge hard-on for the Apharmd series.
4.
Triple worse: if your machine is destroyed while remote-piloting, your mind vanishes into C.I.S., and your body becomes a vegetable. Thus, the majority of pilots “conscripted” via MSBS 3.33 are now the latest Lost Generation. After this, remote-control MSBS versions are officially banned, but they show up now and again.
5.
All of this does not brook favorably on DN's finances, and they start to break up. Some of the DN companies take control of the various plants(the “Refoe” family is one, although why their plant is “Flesh Refoe” is anyone's guess).
4.
One-Man Rescue
1.
Big piece of the puzzle between VOOM and VOOT. Concerns a Limited War in “the former continent of Australia”(may be a Gundam reference?) where RNA interferes.
2.
A bunch of named characters appear here(and never again), although for SRW Alpha / Marz fans, this is where “Hatter” makes his first appearance.
3.
Lots of new VRs and one offs: 10/80s(mass-produced Temjins that later show up in VOOT 5.66 and Force), the second-generation Apharmd variants, specialized versions of Belgdor(snore), Dorkas(eh), and Raiden(awesome).
4.
“Second generation” are the VRs that later appear in VOOT, and they display their powers: V-Armor, and watari dashing. They also can rape the first-gen units without even trying, which they do repeatedly.
5.
The second-generation Raiden makes its appearance(using “Fixed Location Reverse Convert”, aka long-range teleportation, and why you can travel all over the world in VOOT). 2nd-gen Raiden rapes the Apharmds back. Hard.
6.
Nobody's finished translating it yet!
5.
Fragmentary Passage
1.
Some short stories just before VOOT. Second-gen Temjins being tested(“Glimpe” and the “White Fleet” are mentioned). A 2nd-gen Apharmd(MBH) appears, although it seems to have been corrupted by “SHADOW”(the pilots thoughts are a short story themselves, and they are..spooky).
2.
Ajim apparently makes his first appearance, ripping **** up and being spooky. Both sides want to get ahold of him.
3.
The “Rose Sisters” are commissioned by RNA to capture him. They get close, but no cigar.
4.
The original Angelan was built by the child genius Lilian Plajiner(?). The first version is implied to be the same size as a human, and is meant to capture Ajim via ice magic. Also doesn't work, but DNA decides to commission Angelan as a limited-series production VR. Ok.
5.
Again, not much was translated.
6.
VOOT
1.
Turns out that the 9th plant was experimenting with a new application of V-Crystal tech: the ability to control probability(if you watched Escaflowne TV, you might remember this idea).
2.
However, the core of this project, “Tangram” has vanished. Oops.
3.
To get it back, Lilian Plajiner(?), the child genius, declares a new Limited War to find the Tangram.
1.
(This is some speculation somewhat backed up by VC. The manuals just say “go find the Tangram”)
4.
Kick ass against RNA/DNA again, it's go time, etc.
5.
The final battle against Tangram splits the heavens. Tangram apparently gains self-conciousness(and speaks in the voice of Belldandy from Oh My Goddess, yes it's Kikuko Inoue), says some mysterious ****, and “leaves”. Wow, that was a waste of time.
6.
Virtual Century has some stuff that Tangram was actually being built by a DN group under Ember IV back during VOOM, which was his reason to form RNA, but it's all kinda hazy. Speculation welcome on whether J. Watari has access to wacky tobaccy.
7.
Between VOOT and Force
1.
V-Crystals are discovered on Mars, kicking off a rush to claim land.
2.
Turns out that 2nd-gen VRs do pretty **** on Mars, which starts a race to build 3rd-gen VRs that aren't affects as much. This is Hitmaker's excuse for the differing gameplay in Force and Marz due to the original VOOT programming team taking a hike.
3.
A lot of crazy customized VRs and series are built during this time. Includes Guyrahacka, Fei and Angelan's sister that appears as a pint-sized VR. Meant to trap Jagurandi, but it doesn't work. You'd think DNA would get the hint that specialized capture VRs are a waste of time, but oh well.
4.
Nobody knows more; odds are nobody will care.
8.
Force
1.
**** if we know, all we know is that you eventually fight Jag, and are then dispatched to Jupiter via Reverse-Convert Gate.
2.
If you do the “training” option with your Pilot Card, you team up with Sgt. Hatter to dispatch some mooks. This was his first “game” appearance”.
3.
Ends with a battle with Ajim and Gelan, the male-and-female crystal VRs. About the only useful story bit is that they are both remnants of the original C.I.S. transportation network, so they could be left over from the civilization that built the original Bal Bas Bow.
4.
The fleet around Jupiter is doing some **** at the end, and random King Crimson lyrics are spoken. I preferred New Order, but what the hell.
5.
Implications from Marz indicate that the Force fleet sticks around Jupiter to prevent Ajim and Gelan from getting out.
9.
Between Force and Marz
1.
IWC gets irritated that DNA and RNA are doing more “war” stuff on Mars than is good for business, and sets up an independent investigation unit on Mars called, funny enough, “Marz”. High financial support, so you get cool-looking VRs. Hatter apparently joins up.
10.
Marz
1.
I didn't play it.
2.
JP version had a giant Encyclopedia that explained lots of things(much like SRW), but it got left out of the English release.
3.
Buncha Shadow units show up, along with the White Fleet. The Cheese Knight cometh.
4.
Ember IV appears again, along with the Rose Sisters.
5.
Hatter's here again, apparently he fights you for some reason? Eh.
6.
Some mass-produced Z-Gradts and Bradtos halves apper under the control of “DYNM”, some cyber butt-pirate.
7.
At the end, you have to fight Tangram's “bad” personality again.
8.
After you win, she buzzes around Marz and terraforms it. Ok, great!
11.
That's it.
1.
There was to be another VO arcade game, but Marz' **** sales torpedoed it. Watari and partner are now stuck in Sega middle-management hell somewhere..
Also, no spoiler option? For shame.
This has some good info for the earlier bits of the series, bit not so much Force/MARZ. Still a good read.
Copypasta for those too lazy to click on the link. And in case the site fudges itself into oblivion in the future for whatever reason. Eh, whatever.
VO Story: The tl;dr version
1.
VO:C = Virtual On: Counterpoint 9A (drama CD)
2.
VOOM = Virtual On: Operation Moongate (aka the first CT: Virtual ON)
3.
OMR = One-Man Rescue (sidestory, in Hobby Japan
4.
FP = Fragmentary Passage (
5.
VOOT = Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram
6.
VOF = Virtual On: FORCE
7.
VOM = Virtual On: MARZ..ok, nobody gave a **** about Marz.
1.
Pre-VO:
1.
Earth is now controlled by megacorporations instead of nations or power blocs, and we are in the Virtual Century(aka Gundam: Hexidecimal Calendar)
2.
There's apparently a few space colonies(nobody cares about them except pre-VOOM) and some intrasystem travel, but no long-range star travel.
3.
No actual “war” is required anymore, since it's all done via banking/stock-market/Internet. Unknown if late 2008 was their opening salvo.
4.
However, actual humans don't really feel content without war or the normal trappings of survival, so companies now stage meaningless wars to keep the rabble distracted, and keep stocks high.
5.
The refereeing company is “International War Company”, and the battles are referred to as “Limited War”.
1.
Some speculation backed up by Virtual Century: soldiers are mercenaries, it's implied that while they're looked down on as hired dogs, being a veteran gets you access to higher benefits and a nice cash pension(possibly similarities to Grey: Digital Target with the “Citizen” battles)
6.
One day, ancient alien subterranean ruins are discovered on the Moon. Among the “Overtechnology”(yes, it's probably a Macross reference) discovered are two important items:
1.
The “V-Crystal”, a crystalline artifact that can “move” minds between the regular plane of existence, and another data-driven dimension termed “Cyber-Imaginary Space”, or “C.I.S.” for short. Plus, it is found to enable “Reverse-Convert”, a technique to materialize matter out of data patterns and energy(Doesn't say whether this breaks the law of energy-conversion or not).
2.
A giant humanoid robot, termed “Bal Bas Bow”. Yes, this is part of the original Bal from VOOM. However, the catch is that the head alone is the size of a VR, and this is what Bal's “float unit” actually is.
7.
The discovering corporations decide to create a consortium to better manage(i.e. profit) from this technology. The organization formed from them is termed “DN”, from the “Dyna-tech” and “Nova Group” corps. Their army is “DNA”. Har.
8.
Experiments to try to revive the original Bal unit fail spectacularly and it's decided to let it be. However, by examining its structure and the V-Crystal, DN creates miniaturized versions of the Bal power source(the “V. Converter”). They load them onto two experimental robots they had lying around(the Temjin and Raiden prototypes), and discover that these “Virtuaroids”(or VRs) become pretty neat additions to their usual Limited War escapades.
9.
What they carefully leave unspoken is that there are still lots of unknowns with the V.Converter and Crystal, plus an expanding missing-person count with the original VR and -Crystal development teams.
1.
This is where the 'Plant 0' legends come from. 'SHADOW' also comes into play here.
2.
The first Viper units are built, and one bursting into flames on a test-run is the inspiration for the “She's Lost Control” special attacks in all later Viper-based series.
3.
The original Fei-Yen is built around this time, ostensibly as a Reverse-Convert experimental unit(?). Runs off, unclear if it has artificial intelligence or can transmogrify into a young girl, or star in H-doujins. After this, DN builds mass-produced replicas that are toned down. No word on what kind of pilots they tend to get.
4.
The designer of Fei-Yen, Dr. Plajiner, also went missing.
5.
Other history around this time includes the drama CD “VO: Counterpoint 9A”, where the “Black Onyx” artificial human(the progenitor of Jagurandi) and Mimy Salpien of the SHBVD search for Fei-Yen. Dunno if it has anything more interesting than that.
10.
DN rapidly builds a bunch more VR models for testing, and starts experimenting with even bigger units(the better to play war-games with, my dear). That won't come back to bite us, no sir.
11.
Since it takes people with affinity for controlling VRs(termed VO-Positive or “VO+” in VOOM, and never referred to again after OMR), DN starts experimenting with VR remote-control units to identify potential pilots amongst the general population. They conveniently look like arcade units, which half-a-dozen other 'mech shows later copied the idea from.
2.
VOOM
1.
Oops, looks like some of the doo-dads DN was experimenting with have started running amuck. VRs operating with no pilots, the Ruin factories are rejecting all personnel, and this thing called a “Sun Cannon” appears to have been activated. Milton pleads innocent.
2.
DN's stock of trained pilots is relatively low(only unit that is mentioned is the Special Heavy-Battle-VR Division, a unit composed of Raiden pilots, that show up in a few more places). They decide to activate the remote-control capability built into the arcade units they have floating around.
3.
This is what the “This is not a simulator..” message means in VOOM, and the version number “3.33” refers to the remote control capability. “MSBS” is “Mind Shift Battle System”, etc.
4.
It's up to you to defeat the rogue units and save the earth..blah blah.
3.
VOOM aftermath
1.
Despite heavy losses on DNA's side, Z-Gradt and Sun Cannon taken out, party down, etc.
2.
Or is it? Turns out that the “Sun Cannon” never really posed any threat to Earth. Worse, it was just a feint by rival groups within DN to break away and form their own organization and army: RNA (aka the Scary Dogmatic (non)Aliens).
1.
This is all due to “Ember IV”, some rose-sniffing bishonen who loves being mysterious and acting superior. RNA apparently swears their loyalty to him rather than being mercenaries, but it's unclear what else they do besides eliminate DNA units. Ember shows up again in Marz.
3.
Double worse: the existence of VRs has been revealed to the world, and DN's monopoly on VR technology is broken up. RNA has their own way of producing V.Converters and VRs, and is even working on new and improved versions. Plus, they have a huge hard-on for the Apharmd series.
4.
Triple worse: if your machine is destroyed while remote-piloting, your mind vanishes into C.I.S., and your body becomes a vegetable. Thus, the majority of pilots “conscripted” via MSBS 3.33 are now the latest Lost Generation. After this, remote-control MSBS versions are officially banned, but they show up now and again.
5.
All of this does not brook favorably on DN's finances, and they start to break up. Some of the DN companies take control of the various plants(the “Refoe” family is one, although why their plant is “Flesh Refoe” is anyone's guess).
4.
One-Man Rescue
1.
Big piece of the puzzle between VOOM and VOOT. Concerns a Limited War in “the former continent of Australia”(may be a Gundam reference?) where RNA interferes.
2.
A bunch of named characters appear here(and never again), although for SRW Alpha / Marz fans, this is where “Hatter” makes his first appearance.
3.
Lots of new VRs and one offs: 10/80s(mass-produced Temjins that later show up in VOOT 5.66 and Force), the second-generation Apharmd variants, specialized versions of Belgdor(snore), Dorkas(eh), and Raiden(awesome).
4.
“Second generation” are the VRs that later appear in VOOT, and they display their powers: V-Armor, and watari dashing. They also can rape the first-gen units without even trying, which they do repeatedly.
5.
The second-generation Raiden makes its appearance(using “Fixed Location Reverse Convert”, aka long-range teleportation, and why you can travel all over the world in VOOT). 2nd-gen Raiden rapes the Apharmds back. Hard.
6.
Nobody's finished translating it yet!
5.
Fragmentary Passage
1.
Some short stories just before VOOT. Second-gen Temjins being tested(“Glimpe” and the “White Fleet” are mentioned). A 2nd-gen Apharmd(MBH) appears, although it seems to have been corrupted by “SHADOW”(the pilots thoughts are a short story themselves, and they are..spooky).
2.
Ajim apparently makes his first appearance, ripping **** up and being spooky. Both sides want to get ahold of him.
3.
The “Rose Sisters” are commissioned by RNA to capture him. They get close, but no cigar.
4.
The original Angelan was built by the child genius Lilian Plajiner(?). The first version is implied to be the same size as a human, and is meant to capture Ajim via ice magic. Also doesn't work, but DNA decides to commission Angelan as a limited-series production VR. Ok.
5.
Again, not much was translated.
6.
VOOT
1.
Turns out that the 9th plant was experimenting with a new application of V-Crystal tech: the ability to control probability(if you watched Escaflowne TV, you might remember this idea).
2.
However, the core of this project, “Tangram” has vanished. Oops.
3.
To get it back, Lilian Plajiner(?), the child genius, declares a new Limited War to find the Tangram.
1.
(This is some speculation somewhat backed up by VC. The manuals just say “go find the Tangram”)
4.
Kick ass against RNA/DNA again, it's go time, etc.
5.
The final battle against Tangram splits the heavens. Tangram apparently gains self-conciousness(and speaks in the voice of Belldandy from Oh My Goddess, yes it's Kikuko Inoue), says some mysterious ****, and “leaves”. Wow, that was a waste of time.
6.
Virtual Century has some stuff that Tangram was actually being built by a DN group under Ember IV back during VOOM, which was his reason to form RNA, but it's all kinda hazy. Speculation welcome on whether J. Watari has access to wacky tobaccy.
7.
Between VOOT and Force
1.
V-Crystals are discovered on Mars, kicking off a rush to claim land.
2.
Turns out that 2nd-gen VRs do pretty **** on Mars, which starts a race to build 3rd-gen VRs that aren't affects as much. This is Hitmaker's excuse for the differing gameplay in Force and Marz due to the original VOOT programming team taking a hike.
3.
A lot of crazy customized VRs and series are built during this time. Includes Guyrahacka, Fei and Angelan's sister that appears as a pint-sized VR. Meant to trap Jagurandi, but it doesn't work. You'd think DNA would get the hint that specialized capture VRs are a waste of time, but oh well.
4.
Nobody knows more; odds are nobody will care.
8.
Force
1.
**** if we know, all we know is that you eventually fight Jag, and are then dispatched to Jupiter via Reverse-Convert Gate.
2.
If you do the “training” option with your Pilot Card, you team up with Sgt. Hatter to dispatch some mooks. This was his first “game” appearance”.
3.
Ends with a battle with Ajim and Gelan, the male-and-female crystal VRs. About the only useful story bit is that they are both remnants of the original C.I.S. transportation network, so they could be left over from the civilization that built the original Bal Bas Bow.
4.
The fleet around Jupiter is doing some **** at the end, and random King Crimson lyrics are spoken. I preferred New Order, but what the hell.
5.
Implications from Marz indicate that the Force fleet sticks around Jupiter to prevent Ajim and Gelan from getting out.
9.
Between Force and Marz
1.
IWC gets irritated that DNA and RNA are doing more “war” stuff on Mars than is good for business, and sets up an independent investigation unit on Mars called, funny enough, “Marz”. High financial support, so you get cool-looking VRs. Hatter apparently joins up.
10.
Marz
1.
I didn't play it.
2.
JP version had a giant Encyclopedia that explained lots of things(much like SRW), but it got left out of the English release.
3.
Buncha Shadow units show up, along with the White Fleet. The Cheese Knight cometh.
4.
Ember IV appears again, along with the Rose Sisters.
5.
Hatter's here again, apparently he fights you for some reason? Eh.
6.
Some mass-produced Z-Gradts and Bradtos halves apper under the control of “DYNM”, some cyber butt-pirate.
7.
At the end, you have to fight Tangram's “bad” personality again.
8.
After you win, she buzzes around Marz and terraforms it. Ok, great!
11.
That's it.
1.
There was to be another VO arcade game, but Marz' **** sales torpedoed it. Watari and partner are now stuck in Sega middle-management hell somewhere..
Also, no spoiler option? For shame.
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Re: Storyline Discussion Thread
what do you mean by Black Onyx (who I didn't know was an artificial human until now) being the progenitor of Jaguarandi? *gasp* Is he the boy whose mind gets trapped in the Raiden, mutating it intothat fatal bug in the Mind Shift Battle System? Also you spelled some names wrong.
Ember IV = Anber IV
Lilian Plajiner = L'ln Plajiner
Guyrahacka = Guarayakha
Ajim and Gelan = Ajim and Guerlain
DYNM = DYMN (Dymon)
Jagurandi = Jaguarandi
You never took into account Dymon's evil plans to use their Anti-Matter Fortress superweapon to wipe out mankind in hateful vengeance! Dymon despises mankind because of all the greed and other negative emotions that flowed in the Limited Wars. Dymon is the residual consciousness of an ancient alien race that created the MoonGate and was forced to lurk shapeless in Meta-Cyberspace, or in your case, Cyber Imaginary Space. That race manipulated the V-Crystals for various uses and prospered, before being forced to lurk shapeless. Shapeless Dymon infest the hearts of men, feeding on their greed, anger, and pride. There are those who (somehow) knew of the threat, L'ln Plajiner included, so they came together and created Tangram, for the purpose of banishing Dymon back to Meta-Cyberspace. But, some humans loyal to Dymon assassinated Mr. Refoe and hurled the Tangram into Meta-Cyberspace! You know what I think? I think Anber IV (who was DN's wealthiest stockholder) was under Dymon's influence when he masterminded those splinter cells within the DN Corp.
Ember IV = Anber IV
Lilian Plajiner = L'ln Plajiner
Guyrahacka = Guarayakha
Ajim and Gelan = Ajim and Guerlain
DYNM = DYMN (Dymon)
Jagurandi = Jaguarandi
You never took into account Dymon's evil plans to use their Anti-Matter Fortress superweapon to wipe out mankind in hateful vengeance! Dymon despises mankind because of all the greed and other negative emotions that flowed in the Limited Wars. Dymon is the residual consciousness of an ancient alien race that created the MoonGate and was forced to lurk shapeless in Meta-Cyberspace, or in your case, Cyber Imaginary Space. That race manipulated the V-Crystals for various uses and prospered, before being forced to lurk shapeless. Shapeless Dymon infest the hearts of men, feeding on their greed, anger, and pride. There are those who (somehow) knew of the threat, L'ln Plajiner included, so they came together and created Tangram, for the purpose of banishing Dymon back to Meta-Cyberspace. But, some humans loyal to Dymon assassinated Mr. Refoe and hurled the Tangram into Meta-Cyberspace! You know what I think? I think Anber IV (who was DN's wealthiest stockholder) was under Dymon's influence when he masterminded those splinter cells within the DN Corp.
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...I didn't write that.
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Anber instead of Ember... time to change the names around in my script again ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
YOU SEE, VASH!? EMBER DOES EXIST! I'M NOT ON DRUGS WHEN I'M ON LIVE!!!
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Also, Black Onyx is, I'm pretty sure, a special Raiden and not the name of the pilot directly. Perhaps the pilot is named after his ship as a nickname or something but "Black Onyx Raiden" is on some posters and other media (I believe there was a model kit?) and it is a big shiny black Raiden.
I have no doubt that the pilot is the same, though, as the Black Onyx model looks just like first gen Jaguarandi.
And Temjin, how do you know all this stuff!? Do you speak Japanese or know one of the devs or something!? I've played through Marz and very little of what you post is really spelled out, at least not in the American Version. You seem to know more than is readily avaliable in the english speaking world.
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YOU SEE, VASH!? EMBER DOES EXIST! I'M NOT ON DRUGS WHEN I'M ON LIVE!!!
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Also, Black Onyx is, I'm pretty sure, a special Raiden and not the name of the pilot directly. Perhaps the pilot is named after his ship as a nickname or something but "Black Onyx Raiden" is on some posters and other media (I believe there was a model kit?) and it is a big shiny black Raiden.
I have no doubt that the pilot is the same, though, as the Black Onyx model looks just like first gen Jaguarandi.
And Temjin, how do you know all this stuff!? Do you speak Japanese or know one of the devs or something!? I've played through Marz and very little of what you post is really spelled out, at least not in the American Version. You seem to know more than is readily avaliable in the english speaking world.
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The pilot of Black Onyx is a Japanese child named Kuroki Daichi. And lol, no, the Black Onyx is just a special colored OMG Raiden in Black-Gold
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The story was discussed alot way back during the virtualon.net days, and there was also that Japanese VO encyclopedia "Virtual Century" (it's no longer up now).
*Edit for the curious, very old Babelfish snippet with some help from VR Eli
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The story was discussed alot way back during the virtualon.net days, and there was also that Japanese VO encyclopedia "Virtual Century" (it's no longer up now).
*Edit for the curious, very old Babelfish snippet with some help from VR Eli
Author: VR Eli (---.tnt4.lorton.va.da.uu.net)
Date: 12-23-02 05:18
There's a few different stories but here are the two big ones:
Jaguarandi is a bug in the VR test sim. It's theorized that Jag was created by the spirit of a child trapped in cyberspace. There are conflicting sources that say wether it's a boy or girl. Most of them tend to say it's a boy though. Jag was decided to be left in for data collection and advanced training.
Here's what the engrish from Virtual Century has to say:
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Everything of the soldiers who rush into the pyramid in 4th plant center caused dysmnesia. Is, but after that it moved the O.M.G. Putting, mind connecting with the VR in the human who does, little the enormous VR inside the pyramid was witnessed, the person whom you insist was with the M.S.B.S.ver.3.3 which is used for the strictly confidential reverse side. When their memories to image are converted with the memory visualizer, the form of the mysterious VR as in this figure appeared. This image is called " illusion of the JAGUARANDI" commonly.
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I'd post the rest of the engrish, but I don't think it'd help any ^^; From what I can make sense of is that during the capture of the 4th plant (Bal-bas-bow's Ruin's stage) A team of VRs discovered a mysterious floating V. Crystal in the center of the ruins. It was thought that the V.Crystal in the ruins was the same quality as the one found in Moongate. (The origional alien V. Crystal all the mass produced ones are based off of.)
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Just moments after the team discovered the huge V. Crystal, all communications were cut off. The events of what happened are unclear. A rescue team was sent in, but they too lost contact.
This next part I'm unsure of... I can't word it right, but it's about how they got the pilots out ^^; Something out power and moongate... blah, too much engrish.
The majority of the soldiers who entered the ruins were reduced to a vegetable state of mind. Only a few actually recovered. They described that a horrible peircing pain had reached inside them and a boy's voice had screamed out Jaguarandi.
There's other info, but I can't seem to make out any relevancy ^^;
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About Z-Gradt.
Z-Gradt is the main computer at the plant on the moon. The first plant created. To defend the plant, Z-Gradt was equiped with the powerful Solar Cannon. However, Z-Gradt suddenly gained AI and gained control of all the VR's at the plant. The DN corporation decided to cover up the situation and opted to only send in one lone VR to stop Z-Gradt and the solar cannon. It was revieled later that Z-Gradt had never gained AI at all, and it was faked by the renegade faction of DN, RNA. Members of RNA took control of Z-Gradt and the VR's and tricked DN into destroying their own plant.
Ajim has a lot of controversy. One theory is that he's some sort of Cyber Imaginary Space Vampire who feeds on the crystals of other VRs. Another is that he's a VR created from the alien V. Crystals. Both theories agree though that Ajim is a being made of pure V.crystal energy.
btw, the info from Virtual Century was taken with Babel Fish, so it may not be totally accurate ^^; I tried my best to make it understandable, but it's still rather vague.
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so, Kuroki Daichi is an artificial human and the pilot of the Black Onyx. interesting. You know very well that Engrish is is English that's poorly-translated from another language, right? Also, the Japanese word order is subject-object-verb, just so you know. You said Kuroki is the progenitor of Jaguarandi, right? Or is it his Raiden? I wanna know if you're saying that he's (Kuroki) the boy whose mind gets trapped in the Raiden, mutating it into that horrid Jaguarandi!
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I'm not sure. As posted above, it's just an observation from another forum member a number of years back.
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ok then, glad you weren't insulting me at the moment about how I blabber on about things about Virtual-On!
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Anber-IV was DN's wealthiest stockholder, and how can he betray his colleagues at DN with his renegade RNA group like that? What was his motivation. Did he feel that he was above serving as stockholder? Was he influenced by Dymon? Who knows?
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so guys, why do you think the Rose Sisters are Anber-IV's elite bodyguards and professional investigators of VR-related happenings? Do you think it's because they have a crush on Anber-IV? Or were they selected by Anber himself
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I was actually going to expand upon that in the script I was writing (though in the script he goes by the incorrectly translated named EMBER). It was pretty interesting, maybe some day I'll go back and finish it.Temjin747K wrote:Anber-IV was DN's wealthiest stockholder, and how can he betray his colleagues at DN with his renegade RNA group like that? What was his motivation. Did he feel that he was above serving as stockholder? Was he influenced by Dymon? Who knows?
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50% of me says that Lord Anber started going against DN out of his free will
50% of me says he was manipulated by Dymon
50% of me says he was manipulated by Dymon
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Say, did you ever see that one cutscene in MARZ where Hatter shows up and threatens to tell on Gill and Leddin because their squad accepted a bribe from Dymon?
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Do you think that because Dymon's doing whatever it takes to destroy MARZ (by promising the cyber syndicates, VR armies, and war mongers lots of cash if they helped to defeat MARZ), that Hatter would figure that one or more of the SHBVD squadrons would be accepting bribes from Dymon to fight MARZ? I mean, it is revealed by L'ln Paljiner herself that MARZ's true purpose is to destroy Dymon and reclaim the Tangram from their evil clutches!
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Wait, what!? L'ln Paljiner is in MARZ!?Temjin747K wrote:Do you think that because Dymon's doing whatever it takes to destroy MARZ (by promising the cyber syndicates, VR armies, and war mongers lots of cash if they helped to defeat MARZ), that Hatter would figure that one or more of the SHBVD squadrons would be accepting bribes from Dymon to fight MARZ? I mean, it is revealed by L'ln Paljiner herself that MARZ's true purpose is to destroy Dymon and reclaim the Tangram from their evil clutches!
Where are you finding this stuff out?
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I found out all this from playing the Dramatic Mode in the U.S. version of Cyber Troopers Virtual-On MARZ, and guess who did the voice acting for the VR genius? Melissa Hutchison!
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Lol, you've probably heard her talking. She's the girl who's been briefing you about Tangram and things near the latter half of the game. You don't really get to see her in person though.MasterFygar wrote:Wait, what!? L'ln Paljiner is in MARZ!?Temjin747K wrote:Do you think that because Dymon's doing whatever it takes to destroy MARZ (by promising the cyber syndicates, VR armies, and war mongers lots of cash if they helped to defeat MARZ), that Hatter would figure that one or more of the SHBVD squadrons would be accepting bribes from Dymon to fight MARZ? I mean, it is revealed by L'ln Paljiner herself that MARZ's true purpose is to destroy Dymon and reclaim the Tangram from their evil clutches!
Where are you finding this stuff out?I don't even recall seeing ANBER in MARZ, let alone L'ln. Are you playing a beta version or something?