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Fully custom VO:OT Sticks for Xbox 360, photos & work log

Post by Dreamcazman » 02 Jun 2009, 18:38

I have this posted over at the SRK forums, but I'll stick it here too for those that don't go there.

After a long while I am pleased to announce that I have finally finished my custom Virtual On twin sticks. I have written up this work log to show the process I went through and to maybe help others that wish to undertake such a project. After finishing my Akuma stick, I was getting a bit tired of making regular sticks and wanted to do something a bit special. When VOOT was announced I thought that would be a good project to do and not just a simple (but effective) PCB swap over, create whole new custom twin sticks! I opted to use the Saturn sticks as I managed to find a set that was moderately priced plus they were the colour I wanted to match the rest of the box. I already have a set of DC sticks but I would rather keep them in one piece.

Here are a couple shots of the stick before modding began. I’m sure all of you have seen Saturn twin stick before, but I guess this is just for reference.

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Ok, first off I dismantled the sticks to inspect the condition. Gave everything a good clean and laid the parts out.

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Next the sticks themselves got dismantled, gave them a clean out and lubricated the buttons. I was surprised to find that one of the buttons for the trigger wasn’t soldered to the board! Don’t know how that got missed in the factory, but anyway...

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I changed the wires and soldered the loose button in place and reassembled the sticks again.

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Here is a shot of the controller PCB before modification.

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I also changed the wires to match my colour scheme. Incidentally I might add, when you have the PCB rotated this way with the wires facing down, it makes it very easy to wire up. The wires from left to right are Ground, Up, Down, Left & Right.

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Now onto the box itself, I went with a box within a box type (like I did with the Akuma stick). This part is made out of 12mm pine with 12mm plywood on top. I lined everything up from the template I made, traced around the bases and drilled the holes for the buttons and jig sawed the bases out. I was originally going to make custom metal plates up for the bases, but there would’ve have been enough gap between the base and the bottom of the stick once you put Plexi on top and it would’ve hit. So I had to improvise and make it sit flush.

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Another thing to note is that I routed out the holes a little for the 24mm Sanwa buttons on the inside as otherwise the plywood would’ve been too thick. I did this before I glued and screwed the top to the sides as I wouldn’t be able to do it afterwards.

Thankfully Sega (or Ascii) in all their wisdom had some forethought and included lugs on the side of the stick bases. This gave me something to screw the bases to the top panel but I had to dremel out a little from the sides to make the base sit flush. I then used stainless steel screw to fix them in place, but I had to cut off the tip of the screw as it was a little too long.

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I opted for Jarrah as the outer timber for no particular reason. It was easy for me to access, the right thickness (19mm) plus it’s fairly heavy and dense, which is what I wanted. Here are the side pieces cut out.

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To house the extracted Madcatz PCB I used (from a 4716) controller I made up a custom case out of some spare 2mm Plexi I had floating around. It was originally going to be square on the corners, but found out that it wouldn’t fit due to the stick PCB’s, so the easiest thing to do was chop off the corners, bog the holes with some Plasti-bond (pretty much same as Bondo) and sand it down, prime and paint. A couple notches were cut out for the cabling.

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Process of gluing the sides to the case

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After the glue had set

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I got the router out and chamfered off the edges and dyed it with a black stain. I rubbed it back a bit to bring out a bit of the natural reddish brown of the Jarrah. I just wanted it darker than what it normally is.

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I stained the inside of the box with a Rosewood stain and began installing the stick components.

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Once that was done, I printed out some custom artwork which I photoshopped, cut to size and then placed the 2mm Plexi over the top. 24mm yellow Sanwa screw-ins were then installed. I lubricated up the stick shafts, installed the terminal blocks and finished off all the wiring. Cable tied necessary wires together and did other general clean up. All that’s left to do it wait until the polyurethane is fully cured before I start polishing it up.

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Would you believe that after I found the first Saturn twin sticks, I found another set locally, which were in boxed mint condition for a cheaper price! I couldn’t pass it up, but these ones I’m going to keep in original condition. Here’s a final photo with its stick brethrens.

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Just to recap, here’s a brief summary of parts used...

Set of Saturn twin sticks
3x 24mm yellow Sanwa screw-in buttons
Madcatz 4716 controller
12mm Pine and Plywood
19mm Jarrah
2mm Plexi (for top and PCB case)
3mm (for bottom)
Yellow, Red and Black hook-up wire
Stainless steel screws used where possible
Washers
2x wiring terminal strips
Double sided tape (for terminal strips)
Adhesive paper (for VOOT sticker and wiring block details)
Quick disconnects
Cable ties
Plastic prime and black spray paint
PVA wood glue
Jarrah coloured putty (to fix small gaps)
Semi-gloss photo paper for artwork (I find it works better than glossy)
Black wood stain
Polyurethane varnish
Black rubber screw-in feet

Any questions or comments, please feel free.

UPDATE:

I had to make a small change to my sticks. I hadn't used them in a few days and in that time we got a cold snap in the weather. Now for whatever reason, the 2mm plexi which I have on top decided it was going to shrink slightly and curl up. When I noticed, it had risen at least 5mm on the left hand side of the the case. The other side wasn't so bad as there's the two buttons on the top right. 3mm plexi which I used on my other sticks was seems to be fine, it's only because this stuff is thinner that I'm having a problem. I'm not one for using screws in the corners of the plexi simply because I think it looks horrible and unprofessional, but I didn't have much choice in this matter.

Here is the stick with countersunk stainless screws.

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I went to the hardware store and came across these things called Bifurcated Rivets. Now I'm not sure what they're proper use is, I think leather work, but I liked the shallow rounded head.

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Got my Dremel out and cut the head off.

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I then used some thin and strong double sided tape and stuck them over the screw holes. I couldn't use bolts with nuts (like in most sticks) as there was no room and I didn't want the bolt heads half an inch from the corner, that would've looked silly, plus mess up my artwork.

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I'm quite happy with my modification, it's better than having the plexi lifting, that's for sure.
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Post by Testament/Seven7 » 02 Jun 2009, 19:26

....Damn, sweetness man, sweetness ^^

Awsome job.
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Post by gtrainx » 02 Jun 2009, 20:09

Awesome job!

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Post by MentholMoose » 02 Jun 2009, 20:48

It's totally awesome! NICE WORK!!
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Post by Schooly D » 02 Jun 2009, 21:15

RIDICULOUS
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Post by Dreamcazman » 02 Jun 2009, 21:45

Thanks guys, now I can finally play the game properly and get into some online matches. :lol:

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Post by Purple-Tamjin » 08 Jun 2009, 13:44

I got a question, what would you recommend to those that don't have access to any of the twin sticks to use instead?
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Post by Dreamcazman » 08 Jun 2009, 14:33

Purple-Tamjin wrote:I got a question, what would you recommend to those that don't have access to any of the twin sticks to use instead?
You've got a couple of options, but most often than not, it'll work out more expensive than shelling out for a set of Saturn (or DC) twin sticks.

Most expensive route - Get a pair of Sanwa JLJ-PL2-8V joysticks and use them. They cost something like US$90 each but are the real deal and can withstand a lot of punishment as they are meant to be used in an arcade cabinet.

Next option it to find a pair of joysticks like these. They're from a local arcade supplier and would work fine.

Find an old pair of PC flight sticks and use them, just as long as they have 2 buttons each. There would be a bit of modding involved however.

I also thought about making the whole hand piece by scratch, but then you still need joysticks bases of some sort. Too expensive and too time consuming, which I don't have at this point, especially with a 7 month old! :D

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Post by Purple-Tamjin » 08 Jun 2009, 15:21

You basically read my mind with making them from scratch.
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Post by Knoxximus » 08 Jun 2009, 16:33

DO WANT! :P
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Post by Unsubliminal » 08 Jun 2009, 19:49

Specinefin-tacular!!

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Post by Mkz717 » 08 Jun 2009, 20:20

I like the Sticks =D... its strange but i like the artwork =D!!!

Great Job friend!!!

I could not experiment play never using sticks but I could play OMG, OT and MARZ with PC/DC/PS2
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Post by wraith88 » 09 Jun 2009, 02:01

Those things are beauties. Well done sir. Well done.

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Post by Dreamcazman » 09 Jun 2009, 02:40

Thanks for the praise guys.

Incidentally in regards to the artwork, it took me a little while to get it just the way I wanted. In a nutshell I started with the Virturoids and had to painstakingly remove the white background to make it transparent. The same was applied to the logos and then stuck them on a Bradtos backdrop with the big logo overlay and played and fiddled with the different effects. I'm still learning Photoshop and I'm simply amazed at how powerful that program is. :o

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Post by Mkz717 » 09 Jun 2009, 19:25

Dreamcazman wrote:Thanks for the praise guys.

Incidentally in regards to the artwork, it took me a little while to get it just the way I wanted. In a nutshell I started with the Virturoids and had to painstakingly remove the white background to make it transparent. The same was applied to the logos and then stuck them on a Bradtos backdrop with the big logo overlay and played and fiddled with the different effects. I'm still learning Photoshop and I'm simply amazed at how powerful that program is. :o

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I like what you have done. The photoshop has various utilities, inclusive you can do a animated signature for you, though you must have little experience to know how to do it.
I hope some friend designer could teach you.

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Post by Dreamcazman » 14 Jun 2009, 00:03

Updated work log.

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Post by feixaq » 16 Jun 2009, 08:26

Just want to add my $0.02 to say that you have probably one of the best (if not the best) custom VOOT sticks out there. I wish I had your hardware / wiring skills... I'd totally build one like yours if I did!

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