MentholMoose wrote:
In some cases instead of guarding, that Fei-Yen KN player does a quick jump-cancel after the CW, followed by another CC attack. Do you know why he does that instead of GR?
Well, Im not sure about the situation. Are you talking about the replay which 645 is talking about? (Actually I did not watch that replay)
or, you are talking about "player vs player" match? like, you guarded Fei-Yen's CC and enemy JumpCanceled and CC again? something like that?
If it is, I do that a lot.
AphB (LW and CW), AphS (CW and RW), Bal (RW), Fei (CW), 1080 (RW)
Characters above can attack like CC -> JC -> CC -> JC -..... like this.
Because most of players dont know how to stop their CC, so it works well.
But, its very easy to stop their CC, you simply do GR after Guarding their CC.
Let me set the situation, you are using Fei-Yen and trying LW CC.
Your first CC has hit to enemy. Then, you can choose GR or JC.
If you have chosen GR, you cannot cancel your GR until the end of the move.
And sometimes enemy still stand even your GR has hit, you may take a counter attack.
Or when enemy knew you were going to do GR, your GR might be guarded and you take a counter attack.
But if you have chosen JC, you can take a look at enemy's move and decide what you wanna do.
Then you are going to do second CC attack after JC,
if your second CC has been guarded, you still can guard cancel your move before you take a counter attack.
Ofcause your second CC can be guarded easier than GR because GR is faster than JC->CC.
Your enemy has guarded your first CC.
If you have chosen GR, ofcause your GR should be guarded and enemy will use GR for counter attack. Maybe.
If you have chosen JC and take a look at your enemy.
When enemy is still in guard motion to guard your second CC, you may use Crouch CC or Turbo CC or QSCC.
When enemy is trying to use GR as a counter, you may guard it and use GR for another counter,
or you may QSCC to avoide his GR and slash your enemy at the same time.
This is what Im thinking whem Im using CC -> JC combos.
Im sorry if you are not talking about this.
If simply somebody uses CWCC instead of GRLW to kill CPU VRs, its because CWCC has higher damage than GRLW.
Is that tier list changing over time? I swear Specineff didn't have anything worse than 5-5 the first time I read it, but now he has two 4.5-5.5 matchups (Grys and Angelan).
Against Dordray, playing at long range makes the opponent work harder as they get lesser options: 
Thanks.
